EP.39 A24 Films

This episode with Tyler and Justin brings on guest Paige and explores the fascinating world of film production, focusing on the innovative A24 company and analyzing two acclaimed movies, 'Waves' and 'Everything Everywhere All at Once.' We delve into themes, cinematography, acting, and the impact of these films on modern cinema. This episode features an in-depth discussion on recent movies, award nominations, and filmmaking techniques, highlighting performances, soundtrack, set design, and thematic elements. The hosts share insights on their favorite films, industry opinions, and behind-the-scenes details, making it a must-listen for movie enthusiasts.

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:14

Hello, hello. Welcome to New Me to Movies. I'm Tyler. And I'm Justin. This is a podcast where we like to talk about new movies. And this week we have a special guest, Paige.

SPEAKER_00 0:23

Hi, I'm Paige.

SPEAKER_04 0:25

So, Paige, uh, what kind of movies do you like to watch or what themes really draw you out to like go out to the theaters or put on a movie?

SPEAKER_00 0:32

I really like mystery movies, horror movies, and dramas, as well as like biopics, like movies like Bohemian Rhapsody, I really enjoyed. My favorite kinds of movies or movies in general are like Kill Bill, I really like, Coraline, Fantastic Mr. Fox, and some shows I really like are Euphoria and the White Lotus.

SPEAKER_04 0:54

Okay, awesome. Have you been watching the the new season of Euphoria?

SPEAKER_00 0:58

Yes. I've only seen the first episode so far, but I think a new episode came out on Sunday today and last week. I have to catch up on two.

SPEAKER_04 1:08

Yeah. I only got halfway through for uh first episode of the new season, but you're watching it so good.

SPEAKER_05 1:13

Yeah. I haven't started yet, but I am excited for it. Are you gonna go see uh Michael when you can?

SPEAKER_00 1:20

Yes. Did you see everyone saying how good it is?

SPEAKER_04 1:22

Some are saying it's good and some are saying it's ass. So I'll get to it because I actually saw it in theaters Thursday night. So I'll talk about it without trying to spoil it too much. Okay. Yeah. Awesome. So yeah, um, usually how we like to start off this podcast is talking, bringing up stuff about the across from the theme. But usually the themes that we go into is either based around a director, actor, actress, or just like a theme itself. But this week we're doing a production company, which is quite different than anything we've done in the past, and that is A24, one of the newest production companies, but it's kind of taken, I would say, Hollywood by storm. It was started in 2012. But before we get really into A24, let's go over some spotlights that we want to talk about this week. So, Justin, if you want to start.

SPEAKER_05 2:06

Yeah, yeah. Um, Tyler will be sad to hear, but the last season of Invincible just ended, so it'll have off a year from hearing me talk about that. Um, have been getting towards the uh end of Daredevil, which I know Tyler wants to watch. Um, a lot of people talking online, some stuff got leaked on Instagram. It seems like the defenders are gonna be coming back into Daredevil, which is exciting. I think a lot of those characters are really good, and some characters were done well on Netflix, some weren't done so well, like Iron Fist. So we'll see how they come back, and I'm excited for that.

SPEAKER_04 2:40

Yeah, I'm I'm looking forward to it as well. I I liked the last season of it really a lot, and I have some long flights ahead of me. I'll probably just get through Daredevil, but yeah. Um me and Justin actually made a handshake deal to where I have to watch the first season of Invincible while Justin has to watch the first season of True Detective.

SPEAKER_00 3:00

Oh my god, I've seen both of those. Y'all, how have you both not seen the other one?

SPEAKER_04 3:06

Yeah, so I I got four episodes into Invincible, and then it wasn't for me, but I'm giving it another shot.

SPEAKER_05 3:13

So even Nathan's watching it, he's like halfway through season two after a week of starting it.

SPEAKER_00 3:20

Yeah, that's gotta tell you something.

SPEAKER_05 3:23

Yeah, and the main thing I think I think Tyler, I think you think that I don't want to watch true detective. I do want to watch true detective, I just haven't got the chance to yet.

SPEAKER_04 3:32

No, I know you do, but like you just gotta make time for it. Like, I know, I know.

SPEAKER_00 3:36

I watched that in like two days.

SPEAKER_04 3:38

Yeah, Daredevil season two can wait. Like true detective, for God's sake. All right, it'll happen. All right, what about you, Paige? What what do you want us to spotlight?

SPEAKER_00 3:50

I haven't been watching much lately, but I have been I did really like the first episode of Euphoria and how Rue is developing and also the soundtrack of Euphoria, like every episode is so good. So I'm planning to watch the other two episodes later tonight. And I want to go see the movie The Drama with Robert Pattinson and Zendaya. I've heard that's really good. I like horror, so I'll definitely be into that.

SPEAKER_04 4:17

Yeah, the dr the drama, the drama's really good. I really like it. It's it's my favorite movie of the year so far.

SPEAKER_00 4:24

So really, okay, good.

SPEAKER_04 4:25

Yeah, by far. I need to I need to re-watch it to see if it's gonna be a five-star for me, but it's definitely four and a half for me. I really enjoyed it. Some people really didn't like it, but I really enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_02 4:36

Really?

SPEAKER_05 4:36

I think it's uh very polarizing, it's not gonna be for everybody. And yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 4:42

There's there's there's quite a twist, but it's like right at the beginning of the movie, and then like the whole rest of the plot line kind of unravels because of that twist.

SPEAKER_02 4:50

Okay. Cool.

SPEAKER_04 4:52

So yeah, I watched one movie in theaters this week, Michael, the biopic about Michael Jackson. Not to spoil it, it's been kind of known that there's gonna be two parts to this story for him. Like, and this one goes from like when he was born and with the Jackson 5 up until 1988 when he finally like separates from his father, really, and the Jacksons themselves. Because I didn't even know that he was touring when he came out with his first two solo albums with the Jacksons still. He wasn't touring on him on his own when he came out with like thriller and all that. I personally enjoyed the movie, I didn't love it. I think there's some like problems with some of the plot and characters and some cinematography. I think some of the cinematography is like lazy and like really confusing, but the soundtrack is amazing. Jafar Jackson playing Michael Jackson is just insane. It's his nephew, and he looks exactly like him, dances exactly like him, and it's like insane. It's so good with how he's playing him. But I recommend anybody to go watch it. It had the whole theater like singing along to a bunch of the songs. Um a lot of critics are hating on the movie, which I just don't think is like should be reciprocated because it's just really cool to watch it being like reincarnated like that.

SPEAKER_05 6:01

Cool, cool, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:02

I've heard uh really good things about it, so we'll see, yeah. Most of the critics hate it because they aren't touching on they aren't going around touchy subjects about Michael Jackson, like you know, he was accused a lot of stuff, but this is like during a timeline, like that the first part of his timeline, that's not when he started getting accused of stuff. He started getting accused like in the 90s, and this doesn't go into the nineties, so I don't see why they would even like start hinting on that kind of stuff when that's just not what was happening for his life. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 6:31

Um I wonder yeah, go into that stuff in the second one, probably we'll see.

SPEAKER_04 6:40

This was rated PG. There's a lot of kids in the theater. Then uh yeah, and it just depends on like what the director's trying to go for with this. I mean, his family is like really to endorse this a lot. I don't think they wanna know. And there's no confirmed allegations, it's just a lot of allegations with nothing being confirmed about it. Yeah, um, there's a bunch of documentaries about it. I think I don't know if a biopic needs to go into it. Um, two movies, a quick shout-out, and then one is another A24 movie. So I saw signs finally, M. Night Shyalon movie came out in 2003 about aliens. I didn't expect to get real emotional about that movie, but it was really good. And like an alien movie got me emotional. Not as emotional as a rival, though, but pretty emotional um with Mel Brooks and Walking Phoenix. Then watched Mississippi Grind a Day, another 824 movie, but it it stars Ben Mendelssohn, who was from Rogue One, and Ryan Reynolds. And I don't even think it's like a hot thing to say of like that. It was insane. I wish he would do more cool stuff like that instead of Deadpool and Wolverine, but no, yeah. Um, and then the other movie that I saw, Past Lives, is another A24 movie, and it was a five-star movie to me. It was absolutely insane. The plot was so like simple, but it's like a romance movie, but it's also about like tragic grief through life, and like what if you know somebody's your one, but you're already with somebody else and you built that life with them, but another part of you is in love with that other person, but your other part's in love with another person, and it's just it dives deep into like what does the one mean, and yeah, it was insane. I gave it five stars. We're gonna do an A24 draft at the end of this, but like I gave it a five stars easily.

SPEAKER_05 8:28

Yeah, I've heard uh really good things about that movie.

SPEAKER_02 8:31

Yeah, me too.

SPEAKER_05 8:32

I wanted to check it out this week, I just didn't get the time to.

SPEAKER_04 8:35

Yeah. Very good romance movie, but like a tragic romance in a sense.

SPEAKER_02 8:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 8:41

So yeah, this week's theme is A24 Production Company. Like I said, the beginning started in 2012, but didn't really get popular until 2014-ish, when it started distributing films. Um it started off with like smaller films like Bling Ring and Spring Breakers, and then in 2016 is when it really started getting big with the win of Moonlight winning Best Picture as an H over Lala Land. And that was like a big controversy because of like how it was announced and everything. And then since then they've gone into like horror, like LGBTQ movies, they've gone into just A-24, isn't afraid to go on subjects that like a lot of other production companies try to stay away from, and like small actors they try to build up as well. A very interesting company. What do you think about it, Justin?

SPEAKER_05 9:28

Yeah, I mean, to go along with that, right? Themes that nobody really wants to touch, actors that nobody really wants to touch, but a big one's been uh directors too. They have been really well known for giving a lot of really small directors big, big opportunities, especially in a world where, you know, all these production studios just keep buying each other out and they're gonna take the safe path, they're gonna take the path that's gonna make them three billion dollars at the box office. So seeing a company go out and uh do that for you know rising stars basically is very important in you know the cinema world today. I think it's gonna be needed for a long time to come. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 10:07

What about you, Paige? What do you think of A24 or any movies that stand out from you that when you think of A24?

SPEAKER_00 10:13

I really like A24. I feel like it's one of the production companies that will like when it flashes in front of the screen at the beginning of the movie, it's like most likely gonna be a great movie. And they take chances on like starting actors and directors, and a lot of those I feel like have paid off to build up the big name of A24. I really like their movies. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 10:35

Yeah, I think you point something out. They they aren't afraid to take chances. Like a lot of these movies would seem like kind of risky for the Warner Brothers to do, or some other uh like Universal Studios, or even definitely Disney. Definitely Disney would never do movies like this. Um, for example, like Civil War that came out two years ago, a movie about like American Civil Wars um that was centered around like not necessarily uh Democrat versus Republican, but just like different ideologies and like going against oppression. A very risky movie that turned out to be like their second highest grossing movie of all time. Yeah, cool. The two movies that we decided to do this week with this is Everything, Everywhere, All at Once and Waves. Um, yeah, I'm excited for both these movies because I I enjoyed both of them a lot. But uh Justin, if you want to get started with Waves, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 11:24

First I gotta say though, like not a knock to any other 824 movies. I mean, we could have done 824 six weeks in a row and still been busy. Um just we I think we both really wanted to watch these individually. I know I really wanted to watch waves, you really wanted to watch everything everywhere all at once. Um, so yeah, but they really be cooking. Um anyway, with waves, um uh starting with the plot, I gave it an eight. Uh it's kind of uh set as a two-part film, I could really tell. It follows kind of a South Florida family and their journey through love, forgiveness, and obviously very immense tragedy there in the middle. The first half follows Tyler, a young wrestler whose life starts spiraling after an injury and a breakup and a pregnancy, and it really culminates with him and his drug use into a very violent tragedy where he, um spoiler alert, kills his girlfriend. Uh, he hits her and she hits her head and dies. Um, and then the second half really follows his sister, Emily, as she kind of finds love's love and healing with her family in the aftermath of what her brother kind of created. Um, I thought this plot was really great. Definitely threw me for a loop, basically kind of watching two movies, two separate movies. Um but it was done well. I know we've talked a lot before about kind of how movies play with time, but I thought it was a really interesting way to tell the story.

SPEAKER_04 12:46

Yeah, you hit it on the you hit it with a nail, like just pretty much two different movies, but like one's growing off of the other. And like the second part of the movie doesn't happen if the first thing does happen. Like Terry's gonna keep living this life that she doesn't really want to live. She seems to be stuck with a group of people that she didn't want to be with, and just kind of living up to this like high school persona that she thinks she needs to live, and then she gets outcasted because of what happens with her brother, and then the guy takes a chance to go talk to her and then like before this beautiful romance with them. And then through that, you see like both of the parents change and they go through their own struggles with each other. That's kind of a background setting that kind of develops into like their own like rekindling as well.

SPEAKER_00 13:27

There's a moment where like they're in the shower together, Taylor and her boyfriend, and he's explaining to her how his father is getting sick and he's probably gonna pass away soon, and she tells him that she should he should go have a final connection with him, have a heart to heart because his like relationship was horrible with him. And in that scene where he finally goes and sees his father and connects with him, I think that Taylor is seeing her brother as his father, and she's giving advice that she should be taking herself because now that everything that her brother has done, she's not gonna really see him anymore. He's in jail for killing his girlfriend, and it's like the same situation, but through different people.

SPEAKER_05 14:16

Yeah, definitely a a mirror image there. I I kind of saw that too with, like you said, her father, but also her brother, right? Like her being able to have that connection with her brother, especially when he was getting sick in the bathroom that night and she was kind of like watching over her. I saw that in the same the same bathroom. She was like, Oh no, now's the time we gotta go do this. And I I should have done it then before, right?

SPEAKER_04 14:39

Yeah, no, it's a really emotional story for me, like personally, like the second half of the movie kind of just destroyed me. Even like that, the middle of the movie, I was just like bawling my eyes out, and I was like, wow, okay. But it really gave me like a a good grid of grief that I just really needed. Um that that I really enjoyed about this movie.

SPEAKER_01 14:59

Yeah, really good.

SPEAKER_05 15:01

Yeah, um, getting into the characters, I gave it an eight. I thought that all the characters were done uh really well, especially the main um kind of cast. Obviously, you had Emily and Tyler, and then you had Sterling Kate Brown playing Ronald the father, which great actor. I wish I see him and more. Um, and then also Catherine the mother. From the beginning, you could kind of tell like something was wrong with this family, right? And they all portrayed it really well. Really hard-ass dad. You know, the brother's just a young kid just trying to make his way in the world doing what he's told. Um, and then Emily's kind of the quiet, quiet, shy sister, and then the mom is obviously the workaholic, but just kind of lets the dad walk all over everybody in the family, and they portrayed that kind of family dynamic really well, I thought.

SPEAKER_04 15:43

Yeah, yeah, I really like Sterling K. Brown in this as well. Yeah, I think he's a really good actor. He's just really impressive in this film. Um, something to note about this is that they say before he signed on to this movie that he's never seen a middle, supper class, middle like black family demonstrated in this way to dealing with problems like they are in this movie. And I can't think of any other movie where they're dealing with these kind of problems of an upper class like black family. Um I think they're just the characters are really well done to for me.

SPEAKER_00 16:12

Yeah, I think the characters were picked perfectly. Tyler is so great, so is Taylor down to his girlfriend, such a great character. But yeah, they did really well.

SPEAKER_05 16:22

Yeah, it was cool to see her in a movie. Uh I hadn't seen her in anything else uh before. Uh Alexis Alexa the mean yeah from uh Euphoria. It was interesting to see. Uh it was kind of cool to not see her be like shitty all the time.

SPEAKER_00 16:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 16:38

She isn't euphoria.

SPEAKER_00 16:40

No, yeah, you kind of feel we feel bad for her in this movie.

SPEAKER_05 16:43

Yeah. Getting into cinematography, I gave it a 10. I think, you know, just kind of outside looking in, every A24 movie I've seen has had like amazing cinematography, they don't miss there. But specifically with this film, really great realism, but also so many mirrored things like we were talking about in the bathroom scene. Uh, throughout the film, the aspect ratio was shifting. I am a fiend for that. I think that's so cool when uh movies do that. Um, and then also like really great color palettes for South Florida, especially uh going into the nighttime. It was super immersive as a viewer.

SPEAKER_04 17:18

Yeah, A24 is definitely not afraid to use colors in their film. It's just so unique the way they cut to it. And I'll just say, like, the first 10 minutes of this film is like a whirlwind of like putting yourself in like Tyler's life, of how like crazy it is to be like a high schooler that's playing a sport, but also trying to expect this and then also try to live up to expectations of your parents, which I think is like the biggest thing hitting on him that you could tell. And it's just that whirlwind of life of like trying to be the popular kid, but also like trying to be a good person. And then I think that really sets you in that frame of mind of his life right at the beginning.

SPEAKER_00 17:51

Yeah. The cinematography was great. I really like all the bright colors and camera movements when he's like going to parties versus like yeah, those tough moments when he's looking himself in the mirror with painkillers in his system, like trying to reason with himself and find his next steps, like very well done.

SPEAKER_05 18:10

Um, getting into dialogue, I gave it an eight. I thought it was super well done. Obviously, kind of carried uh this film, not a lot of action, so dialogue was huge in this. My favorite line um was from Sterling K. Brown's character. Obviously, you know, it's shown in the movie how religious he is, so this quote kind of stems from the the Bible. Love love is kind, love is not rude, love it doesn't boast, but love also forgets wrong. I thought that was huge. Obviously, when talking to Emily at the end of the film, kind of going over why they got here, right, with their family dynamic and everything. Um, I thought that was a really great line.

SPEAKER_04 18:47

Yeah, like uh Ronald just comes out with a lot of quotes in this movie, but it's like you have so much love to share with the world, so much love life yet to live. And it the whole conversation between him and his daughter at the end of the movie is like, yes, he did a bad thing, but he's not a monster. Just because he's done one bad thing in his life, you can't judge him for the rest of his life. Cause like that is like the whole point of like prison systems, is to set it up for rehabilitation of them as a as like their souls. So it really hits on that as well.

SPEAKER_00 19:15

Yeah, I really liked what Tyler was talking about. The conversation with Taylor and her dad was really good, really good. Or Emily and her dad, sorry, I'm calling her her actors, just actress's name. But yeah, that was like probably my favorite scene throughout the whole movie. Their dialogue was great there.

SPEAKER_05 19:33

Another scene I want to bring up is uh when he is on drugs and he's about to go find her on prom night, just him and Sterling K Brown and Renee Elise Goldsbury just in kind of the I don't know, the door opening of the house just screaming at each other was so well done. It felt so intense and yeah, it's pretty live. Yeah, the camera work in that scene is insane. Yeah. Um getting into set design, I gave it a 10. I thought it looked amazing. Very vibrant, like we kind of talked about, very South Florida, but it also felt very manic in the first half, and then you know, throughout the movie were kind of thrown into um Emily's shoes instead. Um, and we kind of see the calm uh naturalistic nature of her um throughout the the set design as well. It's just very calmed down, not as much going on all the time. Um I thought that was a neat way to kind of portray two different stories.

SPEAKER_04 20:31

Yeah, that's a good point to talk about, like not just the set, but the camera work and the plot of like the first half feels chaos, this world is evil, what is happening, why is this all these bad things happening? And then the whole second half goes into like life is actually beautiful and you shouldn't take it granted for what you what is given to you. Um I think that was really shown by all three of those parts of the movie.

SPEAKER_00 20:52

Yeah. I really liked when they filmed like all their beach scenes, especially when they were it was Tyler and his girlfriend driving in that car and then they pan the screen over the beach. I really like the beach set.

SPEAKER_05 21:06

Yeah, yeah. I knew you'd like that Paige's The location, yeah. Pete Page is a big beach fan. Yes. Acting, I gave it a nine. I thought it was really great. Obviously, we talked about with A24, really setting up uh a lot of lesser-known actors, and you know, besides Sterling Kate Brown, a lot of these people I haven't really seen before, but you know, they're popping up in a lot of stuff now. I thought, you know, specifically Calvin Harrison did an amazing job, and same with Taylor Russell. It's obvious, obviously easy to say that because they were the two leads, but really great job, really great job of portraying emotion, and yeah, it's pretty amazing all around.

SPEAKER_04 21:45

Yeah, I looked into Kelvin Harrison after this movie just because I was like, wow, he's really good in this. Like, why haven't I seen him a lot? It's because he just goes right into like doing he did Elvis, which is kind of a bigger movie, but plays a lesser role in that. But other than that, he's going after like little small. Projects. He's also gonna be in the Hunger Games movie as Beattie. So I thought I was like, oh okay. He's gonna be like one of my favorite franchises, so I'm I'm interested to see him in that as well.

SPEAKER_00 22:13

Yeah, I really like all the actors. Taylor Russell was really good in that one movie with Timothy Shalmay and their cannibals. What is that movie called? Bones in All. Bones in All. I like that movie a lot. Alexa De Mee, I really like, and I think Sterling K. Brown was like probably one of the standout actors in this movie. He plays such a good dad, threatening dad role.

SPEAKER_04 22:35

Yeah. It's a total different role from uh what's it called? The show with like it's like the live with us or something like that.

SPEAKER_00 22:43

My mom, this is us.

SPEAKER_04 22:44

Yeah, yeah, this is a lot of things.

SPEAKER_00 22:45

My mom loves that show.

SPEAKER_04 22:47

He plays like a very calm person in that movie that is like very controlled of himself. But right at the beginning of this movie, I'm like, whoa, he's playing like this like super masculine dad. Yeah that is like no shit, like push it to your all, don't show weakness. And he and he sees that like mistakes from him, like as a father. Um, but it was just way too late. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 23:08

I don't want to leave out Lucas Hedges either. He was really amazing in the back half of this movie and just showing the emotion and kind of his own struggle with his um his dad, but also yeah, his dad not being the best person in the world and him trying to kind of get over that because he's dying. Really great.

SPEAKER_04 23:25

Yeah, Lucas Hedges. That name sounds really familiar. I've seen his face.

SPEAKER_05 23:33

Really?

SPEAKER_00 23:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 23:35

Oh, he was in Manchester by the sea. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, that's what it's from. I knew I'd seen him somewhere.

SPEAKER_04 23:42

Yeah. Um, he's a yeah, he's a really good young actor. Something to me is like confusing me for her career. I think out of euphoria, everybody expected her to like become huge. And it seems like everyone else except for her became huge. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:57

Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 23:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:58

I think it even heard something lately that she might be leaving the acting industry altogether, which I was pretty surprised. Wow. Like after the season of Euphoria. I I'm not 100% sure, but I didn't hear that.

SPEAKER_04 24:10

Maybe she just didn't like the popularity or something like that.

SPEAKER_05 24:13

I'm reading here, it says she nearly quit acting after losing out to lead roles to actresses who were blonde hair and blue-eyed.

SPEAKER_02 24:21

Oh, that's the people, actually.

SPEAKER_05 24:23

Sounds better.

SPEAKER_04 24:24

Sounds like there's some hate on that cast toward actress that all of them clearly do not like.

SPEAKER_05 24:32

Getting into the directing, I thought it was really well done. This guy did mid-90s as well, which is another A24 movie that I really love. Yeah, he I think he just worked on it. No, no, no. Maybe I'm thinking I'm getting it mixed up with the cinematographer. I don't know. Anyway, uh Schultz uh was a really good director. He I liked how he used like very subjective sets. Um, right, so how we kind of talked about the beginning was very chaotic and crazy, and the end was very naturalistic. It showed the character's emotional states really well, and I think he did had a good job at showing that.

SPEAKER_04 25:08

Yeah. I've seen one of his other movies, It Comes at Night. It's a horror film. Um, it's like a family hiding in a forest as the earth is being taken over, but it's really like family-oriented film as well. Um, and then he did Hurry Up Tomorrow, which came out last year with the The Weekend and Jenna Ortega, and was like the really like meme movie that everyone said was like one of the worst movies of all time. Yeah. Um yeah. Hopefully he gets back to like a family-oriented movie and like actually gets a real actor rather than the weekend.

SPEAKER_00 25:39

I'm not sure if I've seen other movies from this director, but I think he directed waves uh excellently, and he did good at drawing parallels between Emily and Tyler throughout the whole movie, especially with the shots and just throughout the whole movie, really.

SPEAKER_05 25:57

Yeah, yeah. Um for soundtrack, no question here. It was a 10 for me.

SPEAKER_02 26:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 26:03

So good. Just to list off a few Frank Ocean, Kanye, Tamin Pala, Kendrick Lamar, Chance the Rapper, Tyler the Creator, Sizah. I said basically in my notes I put didn't overthink it, make the songs fit the setting, and it did amazing. Did I talk about this all the time when it comes to the soundtrack? Don't overthink it. You can take songs that are big for that time and just use them in the movie because that's what's going on, especially living in this high school lifetime. These were all songs we were listening to in high school page. I'm sure it was similar for you.

SPEAKER_03 26:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 26:35

It's it it did they didn't overthink it, and it worked amazingly.

SPEAKER_04 26:38

Yeah, the soundtrack, yeah, it's killer. So good. And then, like, even like the posters of like the artists that they're playing in the movie in the background was like such a cool touch to me. Like they had Kanye posters, they had Frank Ocean posters in the background. I think I saw an A ASAP one, and I was like, dude, this is so cool. Yeah. You want to know who did this one as well? It was Trent Reznor, who also did the sound effects for Social Network, just to show you the range of like different types of soundtracks that he can do. Where he's like pulling and then he's making his own, uh, just even adding it onto me. And he also did like Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. So it's like, I think this guy may just be him. He also did Challengers, like guys just cooking.

SPEAKER_00 27:23

Yeah, this is such a good soundtrack. Um, I really liked well, I really like Tame and Paula in general, but they played the song Be Above It on Tyler scenes. I think the first time they played it was when he was wrestling a kid in a match, and he it's just like be above it, be above it. It's like in his head how he's feeling and how the songs match what is happening so well. And then that song also plays when he's drunk driving to that prom party, and like what happens after that. So the music matches every scene very well.

SPEAKER_05 27:57

I didn't even pick up on that. That's really cool.

SPEAKER_00 27:59

Yeah, yeah. I love Tam and Paula.

SPEAKER_04 28:02

Yeah, yeah. Even to talk more about how much of a goat and how he needs to be talked about original score conversations, he also did Soul, and then Oh yeah. He also, yeah, he also did Soul as well. And he I don't know. Logbade's really good, but this guy needs to be in the conversation with with him as well. Because dude, that's all these that's a big take. I mean, that's saying a lot. He has he has two Academy Awards as well. Social Network and Soul. This movie or this movie soundtrack is insane, too.

SPEAKER_05 28:31

Uh I have to go back and listen more before I beef with you over this, but Ludwig's my boy. That's disrespectful. It's a disrespectful. All right, getting into theme, I gave it an eight. I thought they were um there was a lot of themes going on. That's the only reason I knocked off a couple points, because I think this movie could benefit from taking out a couple different um plot lines. Um, and that's just me nitpicking. Obviously, we had toxic masculinity between him and his father, um, kind of versus the emotional expression that you know he felt around uh with his mother. He felt like he could talk to her, he felt like he could be himself around her. Obviously, just in general from familial love. And then, you know, in the back half of the movie, uh grief and redemption, seeing Emily kind of go through that redemption arc and trying to drag her family along with it as well.

SPEAKER_04 29:20

Yeah, and a lot of guilt, I think. A lot of like family guilt is in the back half of the movie about they all feel like they were the reason for it. A lot of this can't like yeah, this was based around a crime, but a lot of this had feelings of like a connection to like just any type of murder, you know, of even like if somebody in their family something happens to them and they feel guilt over it, you know. So it's just yeah, it's pretty deep.

SPEAKER_00 29:50

Yeah, I think a lot of good themes in this movie. I think everyone just putting so much pressure on Tyler, he was bound to break, and his girlfriend becoming pregnant and breaking his shoulder in practice, all of that was not what his dad wanted to hear, and it just led him to the wrong thing. And I think that's a the like kind of the overall theme or of the first half, and it's really good.

SPEAKER_05 30:15

Yeah, yeah. Um, getting into editing, I gave it a 10. So dynamic, so cool that it kind of changed uh with the two-part structure. Like we kind of talked about earlier, uh, just how chaotic the beginning was. Uh the camera work was super chaotic in the beginning as well as a lot going on. Um, and then towards the end, it was very calmer and rhythm. Um, the aspect ratio changes just stood out so much for me. Like I said, I'm a fiend for that. That's so cool to me.

SPEAKER_04 30:42

Nah, yeah. This the ten the first ten minutes of the movie for me, the editing is so cool. And it kind of sets you into the space of what you're about to watch of the chaos, but then it totally switches up for the back half of a lot slower film. Like the back half of the film felt like a felt like Aftersun, while the first half felt like a Marty Supreme good time kind of movie, you know? Yeah. So I was just like, it's insane how the two different editing styles.

SPEAKER_00 31:04

Yeah, I think the editing was great. What Justin was saying about the aspect ratio, I really like that about the move, the movie. Um, how the screen gets super tight and stressful moments, like when he was hit killed his girlfriend, and how it opens up in like the ending scene where it shows Emily riding her bike and like lifting her arms up and feeling free after letting go of all the past baggage with her brother.

SPEAKER_05 31:31

Yeah, super cool. I gave this movie overall a 9.0 out of 10 or a 90. Um, definitely brought the heat this week, and uh yeah, it was pretty amazing.

SPEAKER_04 31:42

I gave it an 8.6 out of 10 or 86 out of 100. Oh yeah, I really enjoyed this film.

SPEAKER_00 31:47

I gave it a 9.5 or a 95. Yeah, I've seen this movie a while ago. I really like this movie.

SPEAKER_05 31:55

Page told me if we're doing 824, we need to be doing waves. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:03

Yeah, I really like it.

SPEAKER_04 32:06

All right, before we move on, bring it back to Trent Reznor, just because this is a conversation we and Justin are having. And he was born in Cleveland, Ohio, so like I think that's also why I like him so much. I just learned. Yeah, that makes sense. He also did a discography with one of your favorite animated movies, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Mutant Mayhem. He also did that soundtrack. Oh dang, yeah, he's he's up there. Yeah, hold on, let me see. Dude, also Challengers, one of the best soundtracks of like the 21st century. Challengers is insane. Dang, he did mid-90s too.

SPEAKER_05 32:40

Yeah. Oh, it's because uh Seth Rogan. Did he do seven or did he just work on seven? Yeah, I think he was too young to work on seven.

SPEAKER_04 32:47

He was a nine inch nail. He was on nine inch nails.

SPEAKER_05 32:51

Okay, uh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 32:52

I think he yeah he did with do seven because he was in nine inch nails at that time, so this was like the beginning of his career.

SPEAKER_05 32:58

Dang, dude. Bring it he came in hot. Yeah, we'll be watching Soul in a couple weeks, I think. So yeah. I'm excited for you to see that for the first time, and yeah, it is a great soundtrack too.

SPEAKER_04 33:09

Yeah, yeah. And he's gonna do adventures of Cliff Booth later this year with David Venture again, so yeah. He's not doing the Odyssey though, is he? Alright, alright. They're just gonna give it love wiggle every now, every time now. Instead of somebody that gets a little bit, you know, unique with theirs. We'll come back to it. The second movie that we did was Everything, Everywhere, All at Once. Uh quite a mouthful of the title. I don't think I'm gonna say it every single time. But this movie coming into it, I was like, all right, this one best picture. I haven't seen it before, but it just looks like a chaotic movie based off the poster itself. And I felt like to watch this, I needed to be like sat down and like engaged the whole time, which you do need to be engaged the whole time to be able to track everything that's going on in this movie. But wow, this is a lot. We're gonna talk about multiverse, I want to talk about just a lot of themes in this movie as well. Um, to start off, the plot um starts off with this like Asian family that runs like a laundry store and they're working through like a lot of family issues. You can tell right off the bat, like the mother's not really accepting of the daughter and her girlfriend. Uh it's more so because her father not really accepting that kind of lifestyle, even though it turns out he doesn't really care at the end of the movie and he just loves them. But then it kind of goes into like they go to or they're getting tax audited by the IRS, and then it just goes into like this different multiverse world where they're fighting and turning into kung fu against each other, and really turns out that the daughter is like this the villain of the movie trying to kill her, but also bring her back into her light to show her everything, and it's all revolved around an everything bagel, not even joking. If you've never seen it before, it's literally revolved around the everything bagel that is like what she's going towards, and yeah, it develops into that, and then it ends like very like a family romantic kind of feeling of like they actually love each other so much, but just like they hate each other and love each other at the same time. Which, if you guys are brother and sister, sometimes you family and love each other at the same time at points. So I really felt this as like a family scene, and yeah, I really liked the plot, so I gave it an eight.

SPEAKER_05 35:21

Yeah, I thought the plot was really good, definitely a lot to follow. But one thing I will mention, you know, we live in an era of multiverse and just all kinds of stuff always jumping into the multiverse. It's uh definitely a catch-22. But I like that the director took a stance. He's like, okay, this is how my multiverse is working. Explained it in about five, six minutes, and then it was done. It was like, yeah, it's done. It's not like this ever-changing thing that has to be explained across six movies and you know, done. It's just like establishing that you understand what a multiverse is and giving you the basic rules, and then that's it. You know, it really dives into the themes after that. It doesn't take uh 20-30 minutes trying to figure out these characters so they can understand what's going on around them that you're not supposed to. That's not the point of the movie. I liked how the director did that specifically with the plot.

SPEAKER_00 36:13

Yeah, I really enjoyed the plot. I like how the movie starts so quick and you're learning all this information so quick, so quick. Um, and I agree with Justin how quickly they explained the multiverse, and I think they did it well, like with the dad Wei Mon doing it. I really I really like the dad. He's so funny. But yeah, the plot was great, well done, and I like how quick it was. You cannot go on your phone during this movie, you have to pay attention the whole time.

SPEAKER_04 36:42

Yeah, it's interesting because the directors say they came up with like a concept of like the multiverse kind of themes of this movie in like 2010. And then they saw Spider-Man into the Spider-Verse come out, and they're like, oh crap. Yeah, taking our energy from this, and then the same with Rick and Morty. So they were just like, oh crap, but then they're like, All right, we can't watch these because like we can't try to take something from them just like yeah, retroactively. Um, so they said they ended up never watching them until after, uh, just because they didn't want to retroactively, like accidentally take away parts of their multiverse into their own movie, but rather creating their own kind of sense of it, which I think is quite an interesting fact of about them. That is neat. Yeah. Um, getting into characters, I gave it a nine because even though this chaotic movie, it's based around this family, right? And really just like I would say three main characters being the the mother is like obviously the critical role and the daughter relationship, but then the father is another critical character about like they're involved in each other's lives in all these different multiverses, no matter what. Kind of like also that theme of like, is it there, is there a one? It's like even if you don't end up with each other in one life, you're still involved, which I thought was really cool as well. Um, as you can see across the different plot lines. And I I cared a lot about all three of the main characters as well, which I think is really hard in a movie like this.

SPEAKER_05 37:58

Yeah, damn. We could have done family drama movies this week too. Yeah. Yeah. Um, no, yeah, I think it was done really well too. Obviously, you know, when working in the multiverse, you have those three main characters that you're talking about, but you also have different versions of them. But we the the plot and the director really got to the point of, you know, these characters may look different, they may act different, but um, they're all the same at heart, which was is the the big thing, right? They're all their main uh soul and their personality traits are all still there.

SPEAKER_00 38:34

I like the characters are are great. I was telling y'all how I like Waymon a lot, and I actually heard that the Jackie Chan was originally supposed to play um the mom's role, and obviously he would be the dad, but I thought that was pretty cool, and I'm glad that she ended up doing it on him. I like the mom and daughter relationship more than I probably would have liked the I would have liked the dad and the daughter too as well. Yeah. I think all the characters fit really well. They play their characters well very well.

SPEAKER_04 39:07

I read it, I read that as well, and they because they at first they wanted to do like a father and daughter kind of uh or husband and wife dynamic dynamic focused movie, but rather they changed it to daughter and mother because they didn't see that really hit a lot in a lot of Asian family-oriented movies, especially like big epics like this. So they decided to switch it up and they went with like one of the biggest action stars of like Asian culture with Michelle Yao, um, which is like definitely on purpose. One because she's a great act actress, but also because she's such an icon for like an action adventure like Asian stars. Uh cinematography, I gave it a nine out of ten because like again, a chaotic movie like this is really hard to make it seem like it's natural, you know. And I think the cinematography and the camera work of this, especially like the kung fu scenes, are so cool in this, where like you you don't feel like it's chaos though. If you're just like watching it in like real time, which is really unique as well.

SPEAKER_05 40:02

Yeah, and seeing the scenes of you know, kind of the mom's character and then her popping in and out of different universes was so cool and it was so well shot. Like you said, it never really felt like overblown, it felt real. It was just yeah, it was so it was so well done.

SPEAKER_00 40:21

Yeah, it was really bright and colorful. I loved the cinematography, and yeah, all the transition scenes or scenes from universe to universe were really well done.

SPEAKER_04 40:31

Yeah, it was really cool to like transition to like a scene of like uh Michelle Yao and uh Jamie Lee Curtis with like hot dog fingers and then like a ratatouille situation with like a raccoon raccoony, dude. This movie's like just not afraid to like make fun of like pop culture as well. Yeah, just be weird, yeah. Just just buying into the weirdness of like what a multiverse world is, which like can kind of seem cringy if it's not done the right way, or can kind of seem like a little off-putting, but I think this does do it in a very effective way that is like all centered around like an actual emotional relationship. They very much leaned into it, yeah. Um, getting into dialogue, I gave it eight out of ten. I really enjoyed a lot of the lines, and it's really like the slowed-down scenes, but the world where Michelle and Weyman are like famous, or she's famous, like a famous like action star, kind of like playing herself, which I think is also really interesting because she's literally just playing her own character, and it's like those scenes between her and the father, you can see that connection of like, because at the beginning of the movie, she's like, I could see my world without you, and like it looks great, but then it's like she's actually missing him so much from that world and their their connection, and she sees it different in that world, which I thought I really want to shout out, like that conversation specifically.

SPEAKER_05 41:57

Yeah, no, that conversation. I mean, they were kind of narrating the ending of the film, just kind of their back and forth, which was so interesting to see. Obviously, it cut between a lot of the different universes, but that was definitely one of my favorites to kind of you know, like a what if timeline, like what if they never did get together, you know, get married. So that was interesting to see.

SPEAKER_00 42:17

Yeah, I really like the dialogue, especially in the last scene between the mom and the daughter when she's like running out of the laundromat to her car, and then she explained or the mom is like talking to her, telling her the same thing she was saying to her early in the movie, like calling her fat and stuff, but saying it in like a way of showing that she cares for her daughter and she would rather her be in this universe with her, even though her daughter is trying to leave and kind of end her universe existence by entering the bagel.

SPEAKER_04 42:50

Yeah. No, it's like acknowledgement of like, I may hate you for these things, but it's because I love you kind of thing, you know? Again, talking about like family hate and love. And then something, another quote that like is kind of underrated, I think, but kind of revolves around like the end of the film as well. It's like Wayman says to her in like the world where she's famous, like, I would have really liked just doing laundry and taxes with you. And then at the end of the movie, she's like, she's like, I never mind, I just want to stick in this world and just do laundry and taxes with my family because that's who I want to be. Yeah, yeah. Really cool, really deep. Acting, I gave it a nine out of ten. I think all the main roles were really well acted. Jamie Lee Curtis, I think, was specifically casted. She's a scream queen, very famous actress to play like this dumb, yeah, interesting role for her, I guess. She ended up winning an Oscar for it, which I can get into that after y'all speak. But I think shout out to like Kiwi Kihu Kwan, who like this is his first introduction back to Hollywood in like 20 years. And he was a child actor with the Goonies, Indiana Jones, and this was like a big comeback for him, and then wins an Oscar, and like he's great in this movie. Now I understand the Oscar.

SPEAKER_05 43:58

Yeah, I understand. The Oscar too, and what an iconic uh Oscar speech as well. That was uh so neat. I see that pop up every now and then. Yeah, but yeah, really great acting. Um, I haven't heard much from the daughter since this. I don't know if she's in anything else. She was good. I thought she did really well playing like the evil person and then kind of like the nice the actually nice daughter who just kind of feels hopeless. But yeah, I haven't heard much from her, you know, her not being a very big actor and coming into this role.

SPEAKER_00 44:29

Yeah, I really liked the acting. The mom did great, the daughter did great. And I really like the grandpa's role too, how in the end he comes back and kind of says sorry to his daughter for get putting all that pressure on her and for her putting all that pressure on her daughter, like it's a generational pressure. And yeah, I heard that he or I realized that uh Way Waymond was in the Goonies, and I was shocked. If someone told me that, I would not have believed that. He looks so young in the in everything everywhere all at once.

SPEAKER_04 45:04

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:05

I was shocked.

SPEAKER_04 45:06

Yeah, he's he's so good in the movie. Um, I'll get into it. Just I don't think Jamie Lee Curtis deserved an Oscar that year. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02 45:16

All right, who's nominated?

SPEAKER_04 45:19

Her, Angela Bassett in uh Black Panther Wakanda Forever, Hong Chao and the Whale, Carrie Condon, Carrie Con Carrie from Banshees of Aaron Sheeran. I don't want to try to pronounce her last name. Stephanie Su from Everything Everywhere All at Once. And I think Stephanie Who Su should win, or Angela Bassett. Both are way better performances than what Jamie Lee Curtis provides in this movie, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_05 45:44

Um I agree. Definitely a weak class, though. I mean, you we think to like the uh best actress for this year or best supporting actress, even way better.

SPEAKER_04 45:54

Yeah, yeah. No, it's just kind of insane, but um yeah. Stephanie Sears definitely should have won it, in my opinion. Um, she hasn't been in many things, I think, since, but uh, I think her performance as a daughter is really special. Sound effects, I gave it a nine out of ten. Um, I think it's a really effective soundtrack without trying to take away too much from the movie, which is really important with this movie. You kind of want not a simple soundtrack, but you more of like a visual soundtrack where it's adding to the visuals of it rather than how the last movie, like the the soundtrack, is speaking to what you're seeing. This one is just adding to what you're seeing.

SPEAKER_05 46:30

Yeah, I agree. Nothing special stood out, but yeah, like you said, it it its purpose was to kind of um, you know, carry along plot points, not necessarily put them into your head.

SPEAKER_00 46:40

Yeah, I agree with both of you. Soundtrack was um perfect for the movie. It didn't overdo it what it needed to do.

SPEAKER_04 46:48

Yeah. Uh set design, I gave it a 10 out of 10. I thought the set design was really cool in this movie, just all the different worlds that it was building. And again, not afraid to make fun of itself with like a everything bagel being like the main set piece, but then like the laundromat being a centerpiece of like simplistic, and then like raccoonie being a part of it as well. I just thought it was all really unique and really cool.

SPEAKER_05 47:12

Yeah, what like intense set designs. I mean, what uh a mission in itself to have such very distinct and because I mean it could so easily, you know, using the same characters in the multiverse, you could so easily get confused between who's who, but I never felt like I did. The sets were so unique, the costume design was so unique, it always felt like I knew exactly which universe I I was in. Except for the hot dog universe, had to look at the fingers to be able to tell. But yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:40

Or their strong thumbs.

SPEAKER_04 47:42

Yeah. Or like her just accepting being in love with Kimley's curse's role.

SPEAKER_00 47:47

Yeah, that was strange.

SPEAKER_02 47:50

Like, alright, work.

SPEAKER_00 47:52

At first I was like, wait, are they together?

SPEAKER_05 47:57

Yeah, I didn't get I mean, I guess what they were trying to portray was like the part of her that was like okay with being in a lesbian relationship. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 48:08

I don't get the hot dog part.

SPEAKER_02 48:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 48:11

Yeah, that's one's just quite interesting that like I don't it's like don't think too hard about it.

SPEAKER_00 48:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 48:17

It's a multiverse, like this.

SPEAKER_00 48:19

The like playing the piano with the toes. Yeah, because at the end it had to make it weirder.

SPEAKER_04 48:25

Because when you jump into each of these different roles of people's lives, do you feel the same feelings that they are feeling? It's what's even interesting to me. It's like I guess like in that world, like she just does feel lesbian. So like when she comes back to her own world, does she end up having those feelings? It's quite interesting to just think about.

SPEAKER_00 48:44

She does like gain everything from all of her different universes. So that's a good point.

SPEAKER_04 48:50

Um, directing, I gave it a nine out of ten because I think it was really this is a really unique movie and really hard to do that I think the Daniels did really good at. I really don't know any uh other directors that I could think of that would do this movie effectively because it's such a unique like plot line, and they came up with like the story and directed it. So it's just really cool.

SPEAKER_05 49:10

Yeah, I mean, so creative, right? Like who comes up with this kind of stuff? Every every other scene I would just be like, yeah, what? But it works, like it just kept working and working, and then finally you're just like, Yeah, this is a good movie. There's nothing like there's nothing I can say that's gonna harm anything that these guys did.

SPEAKER_00 49:28

Yeah, I think the directing was obviously great. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. It's really good directing.

SPEAKER_04 49:34

Tyler's sideways. Sorry, my phone was about to die. Um recording this on my phone. So if you see the video, now I'm sideways. It's so my charger can charge it. But uh we're we'll we're push. We'll still push with this. Editing, I gave it 10 out of 10 because I think this adds into the cinematography style, but the cutback scenes between the different multiverse worlds was really well done. When looking into the runtime, I was like, oh, this is gonna be a long movie, and it did it didn't feel like a long movie, it felt like super action-packed and like just keep developing on itself, and like I never thought like any scenes needed to be left out. I thought they all added to themselves.

SPEAKER_05 50:16

Yeah, uh, pretty great editing. Um, I know you talked about the cuts between the the multiverse kind of jumps, but another big thing was the uh action sequences were so well shot. Um, it looked just as good as any action movie I've ever seen. Definitely up there's probably top ten uh for the fight scenes.

SPEAKER_00 50:35

Yeah, I think the editing was great, and I actually heard that they only had a team of like five main editors who were doing like all those effects in the fight scenes and the switching universes, and three that like mainly did most of them, like all the scenes where the daughter was like blowing up the cops' heads with confetti and all that stuff in the hallway. All those effects were done by like three main editors, which is really impressive.

SPEAKER_04 51:02

Yeah, that's really impressive considering Disney has like a hundred or so of them, and they still don't get a movie out in time or make it look good. Yeah. Theme, I gave it eight out of ten. I think there's a lot of themes in this movie. Like you got family acceptance, you just got OGBTQ like issues, you got um depression. Like that's also like touching this theme as well, and like just being kind. I think at the end of the day, like I think what they were trying to get out of this is just be kind to one another. Like life is too short to like it's like going against like a nihilism thought of like what what what is life about? Like if life doesn't life doesn't mean anything, it's like all right, if it doesn't mean anything, then why not be nice to each other? I think that's what it's saying at the end of the movie.

SPEAKER_05 51:44

Yeah, I mean, that's basically what I took from the whole film as well, just like this nihilistic idea that nothing will ever matter. But um, you know, maybe it is about just uh our families and the small moments of love and like you said, Tyler, hatred that that come with uh having relationships. Maybe it's just that's all it's about, you know, is enjoying that time, whether it is good or bad. Um, and then obviously Paige kind of talked about earlier, I'll steal it and just the generational trauma that gets passed down through the generations and just laid on on on each everybody around you.

SPEAKER_00 52:16

Yeah, I really like how they cast it an Asian family because I do feel like Asian parents can be are known for being extremely strict on their children, and that's like a big theme of this movie, especially with her father doing the same thing to her. But I think there's a lot of good themes, and yeah, I really like Weimon and how happy he is the whole movie, and how the his overall um thing is being happy and showing each other love and connection, and I think the um googly eyes show that well, because in the opening scene where it's showing the mom at the table doing the taxes, you can see googly eyes like in the corner, just a pair. And then in the closing scene, when it cuts back to that desk, it shows four googly eyes representing the mom, the dad, the daughter, and then the daughter's girlfriend, which is really sweet. I feel like he's a big character for bringing all of them together in the end.

SPEAKER_04 53:15

Yeah, no, that's a good point to hit on. I really enjoyed that as well. Yeah, overall I gave it 8.9 out of 10 or 89 out of 100. Yeah, I really enjoyed this movie, really enjoyed the chaoticness of this movie, and I understand why it won Best Picture now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 53:30

Yeah, I definitely agree. I gave it a 92, uh, 9.2 out of 10. I really like this movie. I was expecting a lot coming in just because you know it did win best picture. Also, with all the stuff we've seen about multiverse, I feel like I'm a little bit of an expert on it, and I think it did did great in both of those things. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:50

Yeah, I gave it overall an 8 or 80 out of 100. I had heard really good things about about everything all everywhere all at once when it first came out, but I never got a chance to see it. But it lived up to those expectations. Um, and I really enjoyed the movie overall.

SPEAKER_04 54:07

Yeah. Um, yeah, that year that it won Best Picture, um, I think it by far deserves it. I think some other movies that were good as well, All Quiet on the Western Front, Top Gun Maverick, and yeah, that's about it. I think the rest of them don't really deserve like a conversation into it, but not everything everywhere all at once. It's just this unique movie that definitely deserved its love. And the roof did the Russo brothers also like produce this as well. I saw that. Yeah, they produced it, I'm pretty sure. Which I was like, good for them, man.

SPEAKER_05 54:37

Yeah, yeah, they I'm sure they got brought in to like kind of advise on the multiverse stuff because yeah, they would know, I guess.

SPEAKER_04 54:45

Yeah. If anybody would probably be the um, awesome. So yeah, that like includes like our conversation about everything everywhere at once and waves and like specific movies, but then we're gonna transition right into like an A24 draft. It's centered around it has to be distributed or produced by A24. Yeah. I'll get into the categories and then we'll do the wheel to see who gets to go first. So the categories is Oscar nominated, a drama or thriller, horror, cinematography, a spotlight of a theme in a movie. Um because A24 is kind of just known for having a lot of strong themes in their movies, and then a wild card. So let's spin the wheel. Of course, the wheel just loves Justin's gonna go first. Shit, that means I gotta make the choice. And then I will go second, and then Paige will go third.

SPEAKER_05 55:36

Okay. Alright. I guess I'll just start it off with my favorite movie of last year, and I'll take uh Marty Supreme for Oscar nominated. Yeah, I had a feeling you were gonna take Marty Supreme. Yeah, just take the easy pick here, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 55:48

I need to watch that. I saw it just came out on HBO. Yeah. Never got the chance to go see it in theaters.

SPEAKER_04 55:54

Definitely, definitely worth watching.

SPEAKER_00 55:56

Yeah, I know I'll love it.

SPEAKER_04 55:57

Yeah, Marty Supreme. It's uh another adrenaline rush of a movie.

SPEAKER_00 56:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 56:02

Like for two and a half hours, you're just like, don't know what's about to happen. Yeah. Very similar to one of his other movies. Or one of other yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:14

We're in the same house and the dog's barking.

SPEAKER_04 56:18

Um, I think with my first pick, trying to go after a movie that maybe Yeah, I'm gonna go with drama thriller, and I'm gonna go with X Machina. Wow. Early. Yeah. I thought that would be on the board for me late. I really like X Machina. I remember we did a know it came out that year because freaking letterbox put it on a different year for some reason. My first pick. Ex Machina, such a unique story of like AI robot integrated into like love, but then also like not real love, and then Oscar Isaac is so good in the movie as well. Yeah, really, really fun movie.

SPEAKER_00 56:55

Okay, so now I can pick any of the categories.

SPEAKER_05 56:58

Any of the categories, and you get two picks.

SPEAKER_00 57:00

Oh, really? Okay. So I'm gonna do drama slash thriller too. Or you can tell me if this is horror, but I think it's just drama slash thriller and go with the lighthouse. Yeah, you can definitely count it as a Robert Pattinson and William Dafoe. Yeah. Yeah, you can I mean you can count it for either one, really, I think, but yeah, because he does kind of have like some act scenes and stuff.

SPEAKER_05 57:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:24

But I really like this movie, and I feel like they don't make movies like this a lot. Robert Pattinson and William Dafoe did really well as their characters. I need to re-watch it because it's been a little while since I've seen it, but I really enjoyed the lighthouse.

SPEAKER_04 57:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:38

It's all in black and white too, different.

SPEAKER_04 57:40

Yeah, is Robert Eggers the director of that one too? Yeah. Uh yeah, I definitely need to watch this.

SPEAKER_05 57:46

I watched it a couple weeks ago, dude. It was so good.

SPEAKER_04 57:49

So weird.

SPEAKER_00 57:50

Yeah, it's so different.

SPEAKER_04 57:52

I really like Robert Eggers too. So like there's a couple there's another movie on this bade by A24. And he comes out with a movie this year too, with him. Or with uh werewolf at the end of the year. I really like the lighthouse. I want to see the lighthouse really bad. Yeah, it's good.

SPEAKER_00 58:09

Okay, so next I'll do cinematography and I'll do the Florida project.

SPEAKER_04 58:17

Oh, I haven't seen Deback William Defoe.

SPEAKER_00 58:19

Oh my god, you're right. I forget he's in that movie. I just I've seen this movie so many times. I think it's such a good story about growing up in poverty near like the happiest place on earth, Disneyland. And they even like me and Justin have been like down there for Florida vacation before when we were younger going to Disney, and they have this like big store. I think they just sell like Florida orange juice and Florida oranges, and they actually have it in the movie too. Just every shot is so like nostalgic, and like there's so many themes in it of poverty being so close to such a happy place. It's just so good.

SPEAKER_05 58:58

Dude, what the hell? I've you never told me about this.

SPEAKER_00 59:01

You should have known about this. This is a very popular movie.

SPEAKER_04 59:04

I've never heard of this movie.

SPEAKER_00 59:06

What you've never heard of it at all?

SPEAKER_04 59:08

I've heard of it. I haven't seen it though, but I have heard of it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:12

No way. It's so good, guys. And it's filmed. I'm pretty sure a majority, if not all of it, is filmed on an iPhone.

SPEAKER_03 59:20

Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:21

Interesting.

SPEAKER_03 59:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 59:23

But not like noticeably. Yeah. Like I was shocked when I found that out. But it's so good. It's just this mom raising her two kids and what they do with their time living in this motel in Florida near Disneyland. It's really good.

SPEAKER_05 59:38

Cool. Have to check it out. Stu Willem Defova one week, Tyler. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 59:42

One of the strangest photography photos taken of him guy ever. Like every photo I see of him is not a normal photo. He just has the weirdest poses. He's quite a strange dude, but I don't know where to go just because there's so many good movies, and then like I don't know what Justin wants to go after before he comes back after me. So it's like, I don't want him to take one of mine. I just know he won't take my astronaut, though. Cinematography, I'm just gonna go with Moonlight. I think Moonlight is a really beautifully shot movie. You want to talk about like a beach scene, like the beach scene of Moonlight is so cool. Yeah, the cinematography of that movie is just insane. It's like three different storylines of the same person about finding yourself as well. Thought about taking this in the theme spotlight, but I thought cinematography stood out to me a little bit more.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:30

I haven't seen Moonlight, and I know I probably should because how I love Lala Land and their connection.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:37

And it won over Lala Land, so like, yeah, you gotta see if it lives up to it.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:42

I've almost watched it a few times. I've been wanting to watch Moonlight for a while.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:47

Alright. I'm gonna have to take uh Tyler's mommy here, because it's probably the only horror movie I have left on the board, and I'm gonna take uh Mid Samar.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:56

I had a feeling you would take this because I was like, I don't know what other horror movie he's seen.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:59

Yeah, it was that of the lighthouse for me. Yeah, good movie. Obviously, we did it on the podcast. Um obviously I had some issues with it at the time. Um I definitely would want to go back and rewatch it um and see, but yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:16

I had this on my uh cinematography as well because it's shot really well and a lot of like different types of uh light horror is really unique as well. There's not many day horror movies. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:28

My next one, I'm gonna take also another great film from last year, Drama Thriller. I'm gonna go if I had legs, I'd kick you. Really great movie, which I think we didn't do on the podcast, but we talked about a lot. Yeah. Yeah, really good movie, Paige. If you haven't seen that, I definitely recommend it.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:45

Okay. I'll I need to watch that.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:47

Where'd you take it again? Drama Thriller.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:50

Yeah, I really liked if I had legs, I'd kick you. It's really a performance by Roseburne was really good.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:55

Yeah, stressful movie. Kind of reminds me of that same good times, Marty Supreme, just a lot going on. Hey, don't do this.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:04

Yeah, I like horror movies.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:06

Don't give him answers. He's trying to bait you out.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:10

Alright, I'm just gonna do it like the most popular horror pick. I'm gonna go with Hereditary for horror.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:15

Yeah. It's okay, I got another one.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:20

I see I think I've seen all their horror movies, so like I could have gone a lot of places with it, but Hereditary is like the most popular horror movie of theirs. Ari Aster, really, really well done. Her head gets falls off from a freaking telephone pole. It's a cult, and it this movie's just insane. And then like the the last 20 of this movie is just I showed it I watched it with my mom for the first time and it scared her shitless.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:46

She yeah, she was like, Why did you just show me that?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:50

The end of that movie is freaky.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:52

Yeah. When she's on the wall, I'm like, oh god.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:55

Yeah. Okay. So I'm gonna go with horror next to and I'm gonna do the movie called X. It's just an X.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:04

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:05

It's the title of the movie. But I watched this kind of like probably a year ago, and I was so shocked. I think it's such a good movie. The it's based in like maybe the seventies. It's an older based movie, but it came out in um when did it come out?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:23

Twenty twenty two.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:26

But it has like good characters. There's these like two older grandparents or just like older couple who are really freaky in this movie, and the whole time they were just freaking me out. It's a great horror movie. I really like it.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:41

Yeah, it's the start of a trilogy. It's like right after this is Pearl and then Maxine.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:46

Um, so I need to watch those.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:48

Yeah, I I like all three of them, but X for me is my favorite one out of them.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:53

Uh this is kind of like the Mia Goth, like becomes a scream queen in this movie, like throughout this trilogy. And then from that, she also um Jenna Ortega is also an ex. Um, shout out to her. Yeah. Kid Cuddy.

unknown 1:04:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:06

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:06

Kid Cuddy is also in it. Yep. Um, yeah. Quite a fun movie, and then it gets like it's not even like dark. It gets like dark, but it's got kind of scream vibes to me. Like a lot of scream, kind of like scream one, scream two kind of vibes to this movie. Yeah, it's not like super scary, but rather like kind of a fun horror movie.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:25

I don't know. It got pretty dark when I saw naked grandma.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:28

Yeah, that they always love to put a naked grandma in a horror movie like The Shining.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:35

That's a twenty four horror review, man. There ain't something naked in a horror movie A24 horror movie.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:42

Okay. Next pick, I'll do Oscar nominated and I'll go with the Ladybird. So this is with Shir Sharonin, I think I say her name right. Yeah, and Timothy Chalomet's in it too. Yeah, Cersei. Yeah. But I really like her role in this movie. I kinda resonate with this character. She was a high school girl who just going through stuff in her with her friends, with her mom, with her future, trying to decide on colleges and just going through the ups and downs of becoming an adult. It's a really good movie.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:20

Yeah. Yeah, I really like Lady Bird as well. I kid you not, when I rated like all these A24 movies, I think like 25 to 30 of them were all like four stars or above for me. So it's like creating like a draft list for this was like, all right, I'm gonna pick a moot a movie I really like anywhere. But yeah, Ladybird's really fun to watch.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:39

I love uh coming of age movies, are my favorite.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:42

Yeah. So it's me again. Trying to think for all right, so for theme spotlight, I'm gonna go with Minari. It's uh yeah. I'm gonna go with Minari. It's a family film about like an Asian family that goes into Arkansas and kind of tries to like start a life for themselves. Um Um that stars Steven Yoon, Justin's boy. And like the scene that I'm really pointing out from this is American Dream, but also like finding like yourself in a new place and like kind of like getting away from like who you once were. It's really interesting, highly suggested to you. The cinematography in this is great. The soundtrack in this, I remember watching this on my move down to Texas like two years ago, and I was like, holy crap, this movie's so good. Um, highly recommend Justin.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:29

I think you would love it. Okay, I'll definitely check it out. Um, I guess for my theme spotlight, I'll go with the Ironclaw. I've probably drafted this in like six different drafts. Yeah, yeah. I take this every time I get the chance to. Um, just the themes of toxic masculinity can kind of the destructiveness of underlying parental expectations, which I guess we've talked a lot about this week. Yeah, just really great film. I think this is the best thing I've ever seen Zach Efron in, and I hope he does more like this. It was such a destructive film to watch. I mean, it was just tough to watch. Um, but really well done. Yeah, very in the genre of uh A24. They're either gonna scare the crap out of you um with horror or they're gonna make you regret everything you've ever done in life. Yep. Dang, dude, there's a lot left out there. For cinematography, I guess I'll go ahead and take waves. Obviously, we talked about it a bunch already, but yeah, I think it was just super well done this week, and yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:36

Yeah, there's so much still to go. It's kinda hard to pick at this point, but uh, waves was really well done for cinematography. For me, I think I'm gonna go with wild card first. Yeah. No, I'm gonna go astronaum, and I'm gonna go with everything everywhere all at once. Yeah, yeah. We just talked about how great this movie was, and I was like, if we don't draft it, we're just gonna seem like hypocrites.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:01

But uh yeah, I really enjoyed that this movie. Um, it won Best Picture, so it's kind of like, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:06

Dang, that's the one you said I wasn't gonna draft. You said earlier you're like, Justin's not gonna pick my Oscaron.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:12

Nope, I decided to switch up. You'll see what I choose at Wildcard could also go for Oscarona. Gotcha.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:18

Okay, for Steam Spotlight, I'm gonna do eighth grade. I remember watching this movie, I'm pretty sure it literally was summer of eighth grade going into high school. And I went to theaters and watched it, and I could just relate to the movie so much. It's about a young girl who has a single dad, I'm pretty sure, and just all the awkward things that happen when you're an eighth grader. You're pretty much just in that age range. There's so many like references to things around that time that are so relatable. And I feel like if I watch this movie in 20 years, it's gonna be so nostalgic to me. But a great movie. I recommend you both of you watch it.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:59

Bo Burnham.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:01

Yeah, Bo Vernon.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:03

Yeah, I've heard good things about it. Um, I just need to check it out.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:06

Yeah, it has it does like dives into like self-image, social media, how it affects girls, and um like a relationship with a single dad and his daughter. It's really good.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:19

Yeah, and it's your last pitch.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:20

And then my last one is for wildcard. And I was gonna do mid-90s. It deserves better than wildcard, but I wanted to have it. Oh mid-90s, I've always really liked it. I've seen this movie quite a few times, and it's so good. It's like based in California, I think. If not, it gives the vibe of California. But like a young group of skateboarders who have troubled home lives and just feel connected when they're together and stuff they do. I honestly have to re-watch it. I haven't seen it in a long time, but I love that movie.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:54

Yeah, Jonah Hill's directorial debut too.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:57

I forget he edited or he directed that, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:00

Yeah, I haven't seen it. I but I definitely need to check it out. There's like half the cast from Waves is in it, too. I'm looking at now here.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:09

No way.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:10

I didn't even realize that.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:12

Is that the only movie he's directed? I think so.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:14

Yeah, and that was kind of probably in like 2015, 19 years.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:19

He's directing a movie coming out this year, or two movies coming out this year. Outcome with uh Keanu Reeves, and then cut off with Kristen Wig and him. Interesting.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:29

Yeah, I need to check out mid-90s. It's pretty really good things.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:32

It's definitely good.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:33

Um, all right, so for my wild card that I was gonna take out Oscaron, but then I was like, all right, let me take a best picture winner oscona. Just uh be like the only best picture winner out of that cat on that line. But for wildcard, I'm taking past lives. Movie that I saw for the first time this week. It is my favorite A24 movie after ranking all of them, but I knew you guys hadn't seen it, so I was like, I had to wait till they end up pick this. But yeah, this movie's so good. Um, yeah, you just gotta check it out. Such a good, like, tragic romance movie.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:03

Yep, yep. Um, let me see here. I think I'm just gonna take one we talked about a little bit earlier. Uh, I'm gonna take Civil War. Yeah, that movie was really good, kind of threw me for a loop. Not what I was expecting. I was expecting it to be some political statement, but uh it really wasn't. It was really just kind of diving into, yeah, like Tyler said earlier, kind of fighting back against oppression, and you kind of get taken through war from a a journalist uh perspective. Really eerie. Obviously, we kind of all grew up outside of DC, so seeing DC become a literal war zone was uh very interesting and eerie to s eerie to watch.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:41

Yeah. Yeah, Jesse Clemens in the movie, even though he's in it for five minutes, is like a scary guy in the movie. Dude, freaky. Yeah. So freaky. You know, he like just showed up on set, and because his wife was like in the movie, that he she was like, Can you just can he just do it? And they they were like, Yeah, yeah. Which is yeah, and saying that he just got into that movie by chance.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:04

Yeah, that role was uh super begonia-esque, I'd say.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:09

Yeah, yeah, begonia-esque. Um, have you if you've seen Game Night, kind of like that as well? Haven't seen that. Yeah, it's with uh Rachel Megan. Yeah, he's good.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:21

It's crazy we're talking about him because he's literally in it for less than five minutes. Yeah, that's the one like thing that scene is so crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:29

Kaylee Spaney's also in it, and like shout out Kayle's shout out Kaylee Spaney, because like what a woman. But uh yeah, I love Shayle's I love Kaylee Spain. But cool. Uh so yeah, for my team, I got Oscar Nom, Everything Everywhere All at Once, Drama Thriller, Ex Machina, or Hereditary, Cinematography, Moonlight, Theme Spotlight, Minari, with uh shout-out to like identity and resilience, and then wildcard past lives.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:57

Yeah, uh for my Oscar nominated, I took Marty Supreme, drama thriller. I took if I had legs, I'd kick you, horror. I took Mitsumar, cinematography, I took Waves, Theme Spotlight, I took the Iron Claw, and Wildcard, I took Civil War.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:11

So for my Oscar nomination, I took Lady Brain for Drama slash thriller. I took the lighthouse for cinematography. I took the Florida Project for theme spotlight. I took eighth grade, and for wild card, I took mid-90s.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:26

Just like say I have the two best picture winners of A24 on my team, but uh just tight to say that. Um I'll I'll say some honorable mentions. I mean A24 just cooked. But um, so you got the drama that came out this year, um, as well as Uncut Gems, which I was surprised wasn't picked. Um I feel like that's like a very popular movie.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:47

Watch that.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:48

Oh yeah. It's so good. Yeah, watch that. Um Horror, I had Green Room that I actually watched right before this. Really good. Has Patrick Stewart as like a villain, which is quite interesting. Talk to me, um, and then then The Witch, also by Robert Eggers, and then Cinematography, I had Good Time and Priscilla, which also has Kaylee Spaniard in it. Yeah. And then Theme Spotlight, I had We Live in Time, with a shout out to like Every Minute Counts. That movie is super depressing. It's uh about a mother and like father's relationship, turmoil, but like also like the love while they have a kid, and then she goes through cancer. Holy crap! Stars Florence Pugh and Andrew Garfield. Depressing, yeah, depressing ass movie. And then Wildcard had Eddington, After Sun, and then Warfare as well.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:40

Oh, dude, I forgot about Warfare. I loved that movie. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:44

I thought you liked it more than Civil War, too, so I was surprised. I did. I forgot it was A24. Yeah, Alex Garland only does A24 now. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, A24. Um afterthoughts or last-minute thoughts about A24 or anything?

SPEAKER_05 1:15:04

I just got a lot more A24 movies to watch.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:07

Yeah, me too.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:09

I wish I would have picked After Sun for something. I really like that movie.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:13

Yeah, we did it a couple weeks ago on the podcast.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:15

It was good. Yeah, really good.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:17

Um, A24 has three more movies coming out this year. The Back Rooms, The Death of Robin Hood, The Invite. Those seem really interesting. And then they're working on an Elden Ring movie that also has Kaylee Spainey in it, so I'll I'll be there. Elden Ring? Yeah, it's like a you don't know what that is. I know what it is. Yeah, they're making video.

unknown 1:15:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:41

Because preneurs will go watch it.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:43

Yeah, they will. I mean, they'll they'll come. And it yeah, has Kaylee Spainey and Nick Offerman in it as well. And it's Alex Garland's directing it, the guy that made Civil War and Ex Machina and Warfare. Yeah, cool. So it'll probably work out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:59

I'm really excited for backrooms. Yeah, that's I need to go to the theaters for for.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:04

Yeah. They they gave a when is that coming out? Uh next month. Uh before we leave, uh just like to say this is probably my second to last or maybe last podcast, as I will not be able to for the foreseeable future until probably October, November, as I will be out until then. The podcast will keep going. Justin's gonna keep it running while I'm gone, unless like some other things happen, and then we may have to take a little break. But I definitely won't be on for the next four to five months.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:34

Yeah, yeah. We'll handle so we'll just have a bunch of guests coming in, that kind of thing. And if you know for some reason Tyler can get on one weekend, he'll come to me and ask if he can be back on.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:46

And then I'll decide from there.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:48

Yeah. Like a yes or no. Well, thank you for listening this week. See you next week. See ya. See ya.